Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu further inquired from Haridasa, "Can you ascertain what your disease is?" Haridasa Thakura replied, "My disease is that I cannot complete my rounds." If one cannot complete the fixed number of rounds he is assigned, he should be considered to be in a diseased condition of spiritual life. Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Antya-lila 11.23
Outside of loving God there is no possibility of loving. Rather, there is lusty desire only. Within this atmosphere of matter, the entire range of human activities -- and not only every activity of human beings but all living entities -- is based upon, given impetus and thus polluted by sex desire, the attraction between male and female. For that sex life, the whole universe is spinning around -- and suffering! That is the harsh truth. So-called love here means that "you gratify my senses, I'll gratify your senses," and as soon as that gratification stops, immediately there is divorce, separation, quarrel, and hatred. So many things are going on under this false conception of love. Actual love means love of God, Krsna. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SSR 7d: Protecting Oneself from Illusion
Bhakti-devi dasi: Have you ever seen Krsna? Prabhupada: Yes. Bhakti-devi dasi: You have? Prabhupada: Daily. Every moment. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation -- July 4, 1972, New York
Correction Central European Time is (due to daylight saving) GMT +2 hours
>From New Delhi VP offering 1973 In Bombay, on the last day of our "Hare Krsna Festival", we saw you [Srila Prabhupada] dance and watched you circumambulate the Deities twice, clapping and smiling and turning so respectfully so that your back would not be to Them. The third and fourth times around you put your hands in the air and you were jumping. Effortlessly, you lifted the whole assembly far beyond this temporary material manifestation. We were exhilarated and we bounded around full of joy upon beholding this wonderful sight. An instant later it was over and again you were very grave. You are so kind to display to the fallen conditioned souls these wonderful manifestations of ecstatic feeling which arises from pure devotional service to Sri-Sri Radha and Krsna, in Mayapura you reminisced fondly with your Godbrother Sridhara Svami of the early days in your first meeting with His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada and of the events which followed, and in the end you shed tears. Then you danced with Sridhara Svami and your disciples wept with joy upon seeing this exchange of love between two surrendered servants of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada.
Prabhupada said in one lecture, “The atheists claim that God is dead, but the pure devotee can hand you God”—and as he said it, he held his own hand forward and opened it. >From Prabhupada Meditations by SDG
> in the Gita the Lord instructs us to always > remember Him in His two handed personal form (8.9, 12.2) and that it is > superior to His impersonal form. But then the salagram sila deity form of > the Lord doesn’t look like His personal form of Syamsundara But also salagram-sila is not impersonal. See CC 3.6.294, 301 regarding how Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Raghunatha dasa saw their Govardhana-sila. Presumably devotees worshiping salagram-sila desire to follow in the footsteps of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Raghunatha dasa. I suggest that you ask devotees performing such puja to describe their conception.
During the period of Lord Krsna's appearance, the killing of asuras or nonbelievers such as Kamsa and Jarasandha was done by Visnu, who was within the person of Sri Krsna. Such apparent killing by Lord Sri Krsna took place as a matter of course and was an incidental activity for Him. But the real purpose of Lord Krsna's appearance was to stage a dramatic performance of His transcendental pastimes at Vrajabhumi, thus exhibiting the highest limit of transcendental mellow in the exchanges of reciprocal love between the living entity and the Supreme Lord. These reciprocal exchanges of mellows are called raga-bhakti, or devotional service to the Lord in transcendental rapture. Lord Sri Krsna wants to make known to all the conditioned souls that He is more attracted by raga-bhakti than vidhi-bhakti, or devotional service under scheduled regulations. It is said in the Vedas (Taittiriya Up. 2.7), raso vai sah: the Absolute Truth is the reservoir for all kinds of reciprocal exchanges of loving sentiments. He is also causelessly merciful, and He wants to bestow upon us this privilege of raga-bhakti. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Adi 4.15–16
"Dear Lord," the demigods prayed, "when You appear in Your different incarnations, You take different names and forms according to different situations. Lord Krsna is Your name because You are all-attractive; You are called Syamasundara because of Your transcendental beauty. Syama means blackish, yet they say that You are more beautiful than thousands of cupids. Kandarpa-koti-kamaniya. Although You appear in a color which is compared to that of a blackish cloud, You are the transcendental Absolute, and therefore Your beauty is many, many times more attractive than the delicate body of Cupid. Sometimes You are called Giridhari because You lifted the hill known as Govardhana. You are sometimes called Nanda-nandana or Vasudeva or Devaki-nandana because You appear as the son of Maharaja Nanda or Devaki or Vasudeva. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 10.2: Prayers by the Demigods for Lord Krsna in the Womb
Lord Sri Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the cause of all causes, the reservoir of all rasas, or relationships, which are called neutrality (passive adoration), servitorship, friendship, parenthood, conjugal love, comedy, compassion, fear, chivalry, ghastliness, wonder and devastation. He is the supreme attractive form, and by His universal and transcendental attractive features He has captivated all the gopis, headed by Taraka, Palika, Syama, Lalita, and ultimately Srimati Radharani. >>> Ref. VedaBase => NoD Introduction
The word jiva-himsa (envy of other living entities) actually means stopping the preaching of Krsna consciousness. Preaching work is described as paropakara, welfare activity for others. Those who are ignorant of the benefits of devotional service must be educated by preaching. If one stops preaching and simply sits down in a solitary place, he is engaging in material activity. If one desires to make a compromise with the Mayavadis, he is also engaged in material activity. A devotee should never make compromises with nondevotees. By acting as a professional guru, mystic yogi or miracle man, one may cheat and bluff the general public and gain fame as a wonderful mystic, but all this is considered to be dust, straw and grains of sand within the heart. In addition, one should follow the regulative principles and not desire illicit sex, gambling, intoxicants or meat. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Madhya 12.135
One who is convinced that he must realize Krishna at all costs will be steadfast. Krishna Consciousness requires self control so that one will not be distracted. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Notes transcribed from a lecture given September 8, 1966 from BTG #4
We should preach Krishna's word to whomever we meet, but in so doing, we should not try to manufacture a new religion. People want a new religion, but what is there new to preach? We are as old as eternity, so what need have we of the new? Nature's law is not new -- the sun still rises in the East and sets in the West, as it has always done. We still eat and sleep. God is not new. Sometimes, to make people listen, it is necessary to explain the old religion in new terms. This is like putting old wine in new bottles. There is nothing wrong with this, as long as the wine is not adulterated in the process. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Notes transcribed from a lecture given September 8, 1966 from BTG #4
Materialists are generally very attached to their present bodily comforts and to the bodily comforts they expect in the future. Therefore they are always absorbed in thoughts of their wives, children and wealth and are afraid of giving up their bodies, which are full of stool and urine. If a person engaged in Krsna consciousness, however, is also afraid of giving up his body, what is the use of his having labored to study the sastras? It was simply a waste of time. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 5.19.14
Our seats were directly in front of the movie screen, and when Prabhupäda returned there was a war movie playing. Without headphones, we both watched as the hero, David Niven, ran up a mountain side, got shot, then blown up, and then again began fighting in hand-to-hand combat. Prabhupäda looked for a couple of minutes and then turned to me with mock surprise. "Still alive?" he said, and laughed. With the sound turned off the movie looked like what it was, a silly make-believe, the epitome of the material world. Prabhupäda turned away and chanted japa. >From Transcendental Diary by Hari Sauri Prabhu
There was another particular significance in Prabhupada's choosing Krsna and Balarama as the central object of worship in his Vrndavana temple. Lord Balarama is the first expansion from Lord Krsna, and in His incarnation of Sankarsana, He upholds all the universes. The Vaisnavas, therefore, worship Balarama for spiritual strength. "You can pray to Lord Balarama," Prabhupada said, "to help you in your deficiency." As the source of spiritual strength, Lord Balarama is also known as the original spiritual master. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SPL 43: Beginning the Temple of Krsna-Balarama Balarama Purnima, His appearance day, is upcoming
We are not going to teach anything which is not spoken by Krsna and which is not supported by Krsna Caitanyadeva. This is our principle. This is Krsna consciousness movement. Krsna preached Krsna Himself, Caitanya Mahaprabhu preached the same principle, krsnas tu bhagavan svayam [SB 1.3.28], and we are preaching the same thing. We do not preach anything else. We do not manufacture anything. That is not our business. So by the grace of Krsna, by the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, you all European boys and girls joined this movement under my soliciting. I went to your country with this word only. I did not show you any magic, neither I have any knowledge how to play magic. That is not possible. I simply repeat the same thing, that "Here is Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Here is Krsna Caitanyadeva, the devotional form of Krsna. You accept Them. Your life will be successful." >>> Ref. VedaBase => Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.3 -- Mayapur, March 27, 1975
You are correct in thinking that simply by this full-time preaching activity all other problems will be solved very easily in the matter of financial and other problems. What is that financial security? Real security is only there at the Lotus Feet of Krishna, and Krishna is most pleased of all upon His devotee who is always preaching His message. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: Amarendra -- Los Angeles 12 June, 1972
Love is our life; everyone wants to love. Everyone is hankering to love someone. But we do not know where to place our love. Krsna, however, is the ultimate object of love. We are trying to maintain this body, but the body is not actually the proper object of our love. Rather, it is the life within the body that is the real object of love. Similarly, the central point is Krsna. As soon as we somehow or other place our love with Krsna, our path of happiness, eternity and bliss opens. Srila Prabhupada, from BTG no. 37, 1970
Prabhupada: Material life means sex pleasure. You told me you were in Mexico, in the street they are having sex? Brahmananda: They have it with..., you mean with the asses? Prabhupada: Public street. Because they do not know except sex, they think this kind of sex is very nice. Punah punas carvita-carvananam: [SB 7.5.30] chewing the chewed. Brahmananda: They're not satisfied with sex with a man, so they have it with an ass. Prabhupada: Their center is sex -- this sex or that sex or that sex, even ordinarily. In Paris, Paris you know it is a city of prostitutes. On the roads there are prostitutes. Where we have got our temple, so many prostitutes are standing. And those who are prostitute-hunter, they go to Paris. From our childhood I know about one family physician. We are at that time boy, 8 or 10 years old. He was talking with his another Muhammadan friend how he toured many countries and how many different types of prostitutes he tasted. This was his talk. So he was talking of Paris, "Though you are boy...," this we could understand." This is the talk. Old men, retired men, they will also talk of the sex (indistinct), and they will enjoy. Now they could not enjoy sex, but by talking... And we have practically seen when we were young, our grandmother-in-law, my mother-in-law's mother, old lady, she would talk freely about sex. She will ask me, "You capture the breast of your wife." She would make a pun and enjoy. "You do like that, you do like that." She teaches like that. We were... I was twenty, twenty-three years, so I was just married, but she will enjoy sex. She had other grandchildren. My father-in-law were two brothers. So my father-in-law, he was younger brother, and his elder brother, her daughter also the same age, she would enjoy (indistinct) son-in-law. Brahmananda: (indistinct) Prabhupada: (indistinct) So Akbar (indistinct) asked Birbal, "What is your idea of sex life? How long it continues?" He answered, "Up to the point of death." "No, no. I don't believe it." "All right." So one day all of a sudden Birbal came to Akbar (indistinct) house, "Sir, you have to go with me immediately with your youngest daughter." So Akbar (indistinct)'s daughter, king's daughter, very (indistinct). So the father and the daughter and Birbal went to see one dying man. The man was dying, and he asked, Birbal (indistinct) that "You simply see his face." So when he was entering, that man was looking to that young girl, not the Akbar (indistinct). He was looking over that young girl. Both of them were intelligent. Then Akbar (indistinct) said, "Yes." And our sastra says yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. What is the happiness of the grhastha life? Grhastha is different, grhamedhi. There are two words. Grhastha means living husband and wife together, but the aim is Krsna consciousness. And grhamedhi means he has no Krsna consciousness; therefore his life is sex. That is the difference. Therefore, this word is used, grhamedhi. Yan maithunadi. What is the standard of happiness? Maithu, sex, that's all. Yan maithunadi. All these grhasthas, you will find they are accumulating money, they are enjoying sex life, then daughter's sex life, son's sex life, grandson's sex life. They are busy. Especially in India you will find, they spend thousands lakhs of rupees for son's and daughter's and grandson's sex life. Is it not? That is their happiness. "I am enjoying sex life." Just like my grandmother-in-law. She is concentrating on sex life. She was old, she had no opportunity. Let grandson-in-law, granddaughter. One who is impotent, he wants to see others enjoying sex life. You know this? He enjoys. He cannot do it. There are many persons, he is impotent, so he brings another man to his wife, then he watches. You know this? This is going on. Sex. They will see the dog's sex life, very (indistinct), how he is enjoying. Cow's sex life. Dog is having sex, and there will be crowd. This is the basic principle of material life: sex. In this way, prostitution, this way, that way, that way, that way, this is the only point. There is no other aim. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. And this kind of happiness is most abominable. Most abominable. But that is the center of life. Is it not? Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham. Most abominable part of the body for passing urine, obnoxious smell, but that is the point of life. How much degraded this material life. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham. The sastra has picked up most abominable thing: that is the point of pleasure. Yan maithunadi. Maithunadi, either he himself, or for his son, for his grandson, for his great-grandson, the family. Very aristocratic. So if we study analytically, we can understand that how much we are in illusion. ...This most abominable thing, we are taking it is the center of happiness. Now you enjoy sex as human being, next as dog, next as monkey, next as flies, next as this, next as that. The center is sex, but you have to change according to your mental condition at the time of death in different body. That is not eternal. Bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19]. You accept one type of body, enjoy sex according to that body, then you can accept another body. Sex life is there. As human being, sex life; and as a dog, there is sex life; as a fly, sex life. Fly also enjoys sex life. You have seen? Brahmananda: Yes, in (indistinct). Prabhupada: The center is sex. The birds. Brahmananda: The birds are also. Prabhupada: Everyone. yad-avadhi mama cetah krsna-padaravinde nava-nava-rasa-dhamany (udyatam) rantum asit tad-avadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane bhavati mukha-vikarah susthu nisthivanam ca Yamunacarya, he was a great king. So his.... As king, his life was sex. But when he became a devotee, he admits, yad-avadhi mama cetah krsna-padaravinde: "Since I have learned how to enjoy association with the lotus feet of Krsna and I get more and more eternal transcendental bliss, since that time," bata nari-sangame smaryamane, "even if I think of sex life with woman," bhavati mukha-vikarah, mukha-vikarah, "I taste that (indistinct)," susthu nisthivanam, (makes spitting sound). This is Krsna consciousness. When the mind will be fixed up, (spitting sound), these things, then you enter Krsna's (indistinct). Otherwise, it is mixed up. You have to purify. When this attitude, we (spitting noise) -- "What is this?" -- then Krsna consciousness is beginning. This is the proof, Yamunacarya. Tadavadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane. So not actually doing, simply by thinking, "Oh, I was doing this. (spitting noise). What I was?" this is liberation. Even if I think mentally, that means I will have to take birth again. Again and again. This is the criteria. They think mentally. They read so many novels, fiction. The same thing -- the sex life. And these ordinary men, they read Bhagavata, hear Bhagavata, rasa-lila. They think, "Here is the same thing. Krsna and the gopis do like this, the same thing. So why not hear this?" But actually, sastra says if one hears rasa-lila, then that lusty desires will be finished. vikriditam idam ca visnoh vraja-vadhubhir sraddhanvito 'nusrnuyad atha varnayed yah bhaktim param (bhagavati) pratilabhya kamam hrd-rogam asv apahinoty acirena dhirah That is the result. If one actually hears from the right source (indistinct), then this lusty desire of sex life will be finished. No more. Hrd-rogam kamam apahinoty acirena dhirah. Sober. But these people, they are hearing life after life by the sex concentration, making offense that Krsna is also doing the same thing. They publish book. One rascal, Bhattacarya(?), has published. In Paris we saw. Devotee (2): The Myth of Krsna? Prabhupada: Yes. Rascal, sex life. Radharani naked, he has given the first picture, and that is published by the United Nations. Gurudasa: The United Nations is also encouraging sex. Prabhupada: They do not know except this thing, anyone. Anyone. They have no other desire. That without sex life there can be higher transcendental, eternal pleasure, they do not know it. Whole world, whole universe, whole material creation is centered around that. It is the pivot. That I have already explained. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. That is there. They do not know anything else. Brahmananda: That was one of your first instructions to me when I came to see you. I was telling you about a professor, one of my professors who saw that all literature, all culture, all poetry, everything was simply motivated by sex life, and you said that he was right. I thought he was wrong, but you said no, he was right, and you explained about the same point. Prabhupäda: Therefore the Freud's philosophy is centered around sex. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana |
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